Bronze league is in style again

Jun 15, 2012 - by Strom

Today there are about twice as many silver league games per day when compared to a year ago. I myself had also moved almost exclusively to the silver league. Although I kept an eye on the total game count per day, I failed to properly track the bronze-to-silver ratio and thus did not notice the huge decline in bronze games until it was basically too late. In January there were about 40 games per day total, but as I'm writing this post it has dropped down to around 20 games per day. The reason for this overall fall is the fact that bronze games are a rarity, with only a few happening per day. While the silver league is in a relatively good state, it is not sustainable. People leave DotA-GC all the time for various reasons, e.g. a bunch left to play Diablo III instead. This is unavoidable, but it can be neutralized by the flow of fresh blood. No fresh blood can flow in when there are only silver games. This means that the bronze league is a vital part of the system and needs our full attention immediately, to prevent a catastrophic failure.

The first step that I'm taking is raising the minimum skill requirement for silver league from 50% to 80%. Basically this means that there will be maybe a few silver games per day, but all others will be in the bronze league. I know that many people will not like this change, especially those who have been complaining about silver and requested the gold league to be opened. However this is an absolutely necessary change to help kill the cancer that would otherwise slowly but surely terminate our community. With the bronze league far more active, new players will have the ability to actually play and earn points. When the overall game count has been raised up to a healthy number, I will lower the silver league access requirement.

39 comments:
Jun 15, 2012 18:38:52 UTC
Good call there mate.
yeW-
98% | 1893 X | 1548 TS
Jun 15, 2012 19:58:14 UTC
oeh WHO R U NOOB ADMIN ? now after i feed a bit and drop down from 80+ you DO THIS IS NO GOODDDDD _:_SAD:F;EMSDZ
fUNCh
84% | 1561 X | 1417 TS
Jun 15, 2012 20:02:01 UTC
well.if i wasnt 77 % cause of few bad games + my illness then i would approve your decision,cause i see your point,you got it.but now you have just fucked up me and it won't be possible for me to play in silver with mates for like 2-3 days or even more,cause there will not be many bronze games still.cause all people that play regulary on gc are already above80% and join silver.others (<80%) mostly go join silver + bronze,but there's few ppl like that on gc.thanks much for it.seriously you just made me feel so more sick.you dont even know how much flame i would to add here.:))
and sorry for that rage post,it's just seriously bad decision for me in my position now.
mby_next_time
73% | 1458 X | 1369 TS
Jun 15, 2012 20:13:27 UTC
@mby_next_time If I see that the 80% requirement doesn't meet the goals I have, then I will increase it even further.
Strom
90% | 1614 X | 1466 TS
Jun 15, 2012 20:17:15 UTC
lovely :) well anyway need to approve your desicion,you're right.well i hated ppl on bronze,they didnt know what they were doing with their heroes,im going to need to get used to that.oh you're also 78 % :D cya on bronze :D
mby_next_time
73% | 1458 X | 1369 TS
Jun 15, 2012 20:44:06 UTC
Nice :) Good move strom
DeduXserS
97% | 1804 X | 1545 TS
Jun 15, 2012 21:03:16 UTC
bad move imo, open gold league and keep silver 50 or 60+ is a way better solution
NeverbACKdOwn
54% | 1212 X | 1378 TS
Jun 15, 2012 21:11:37 UTC
Dude make it atleast 70 or 75%, 80 is too high, that means you always have to play with heroes u can play rly good instead of enjoying urself even with heroes ur medium level with. Normally people who are above 72-3 % desurve to play in Silver and again you will keep the bronze more active. believe me its better.
U.Fail2Amuse.ME
79% | 1512 X | 1394 TS
Jun 15, 2012 21:21:23 UTC
Dont ever lower the silver access requirement. then its a nice move
McNabb
85% | 1520 X | 1468 TS
Jun 15, 2012 21:56:52 UTC
see you soon in brronze then macnabb :*
mby_next_time
73% | 1458 X | 1369 TS
Jun 16, 2012 00:06:45 UTC
haha good step...now my friend who is under 50% wont cry that there are few bronze games and he ll get chance to be under 30% :D
BoBo.Ftw
84% | 1533 X | 1440 TS
Jun 16, 2012 01:17:36 UTC
U.Fail2Amuse.ME silver is ment for players who play for win. Good move Strom.
Sepetos
97% | 1724 X | 1585 TS
Jun 16, 2012 09:55:40 UTC
make it to 70 % so we have more people for silver 80% very hard:D
Firelord0.1
78% | 1434 X | 1460 TS
Jun 16, 2012 10:04:31 UTC
Great initiative!
valiante
91% | 1562 X | 1529 TS
Jun 16, 2012 11:26:13 UTC
how many % need for gold league?
mamyka
57% | 1223 X | 1392 TS
Jun 16, 2012 11:29:52 UTC
well nice! its like the gold league i always wanted! :D
Tough
94% | 1684 X | 1494 TS
Jun 16, 2012 12:28:12 UTC
hey, u want to set gold league as 90%?
slc2
75% | 1460 X | 1386 TS
Jun 16, 2012 12:34:41 UTC
strom can u set join time from 3,50 min too instant 2 min ? that makes some games faster )
Firelord0.1
78% | 1434 X | 1460 TS
Jun 16, 2012 13:52:01 UTC
Niceee! i remember mentioning you this problem bout 1-2months ago :)
Usires
70% | 1389 X | 1394 TS
Jun 16, 2012 21:36:18 UTC
@Strom
ok you win :D loads of bronze nowadays + silver are better now.now we only need some new ppl to come here :)
mby_next_time
73% | 1458 X | 1369 TS
Jun 17, 2012 07:05:05 UTC
hi i am mith
gurumel
NEW | 1000 X | 1000 TS
Jun 17, 2012 09:01:13 UTC
gc community 1 aleks 0
Soulyah
85% | 1562 X | 1421 TS
Jun 17, 2012 11:00:12 UTC
Strom make the barrier 90% Now many people refuse to join bronze games coz they have 80% and they think they are so cool. Boost masively the bronze and leave the silver only for the machenes. Its phsychology not reason ;) Cheers
U.Fail2Amuse.ME
79% | 1512 X | 1394 TS
Jun 17, 2012 11:06:45 UTC
PS. Plus you will motivate people to play better to increase their X and thus they will play more, coz ambition and motivation beats routene and addiction any day. You can decrease it after the games have increased .
U.Fail2Amuse.ME
79% | 1512 X | 1394 TS
Jun 19, 2012 08:55:55 UTC
soulyah. win

strom. mul pole sõnu. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFU*****************KING JAAAAAAAAA.
see päev on käes. 80%. funch mad.
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nigulas
81% | 1470 X | 1466 TS
Jun 19, 2012 08:56:42 UTC
english only....
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nigulas
81% | 1470 X | 1466 TS
Jun 19, 2012 13:16:42 UTC
waiting since 2 days for a single silver game ...
Steuerfreak
88% | 1596 X | 1461 TS
Jun 19, 2012 17:17:35 UTC
:D
BigIce125
NEW | 1000 X | 1000 TS
Jun 20, 2012 11:11:56 UTC
nigulas varsti 80% käes siis np
fUNCh
84% | 1561 X | 1417 TS
Jun 24, 2012 17:51:01 UTC
All the system is fail if svents is still silver now....!
que2stress
90% | 1596 X | 1479 TS
Jun 27, 2012 10:32:43 UTC
Hi. Good move, but i think it's not enough.

I suggest that u fix some crippling rules, this one first:
1) letting people ditch games whenever they want. Game starts and some people are waiting for a few dudes who will never join? Game queue should be for deciding if u play or not, and when the 10 people for game are set up, everybody should be forced to join within ~5 mins. No join = ban for ~2h. This will reduce the ridiculous waiting time (in the night - will make it clear if game starts or not).
I could bring some players in here, but they would wish the same change.
Homeostat0000
99% | 1969 X | 1517 TS
Jun 28, 2012 10:07:35 UTC
!support homeostat
skyZ
83% | 1520 X | 1445 TS
Jul 03, 2012 23:32:31 UTC
wow that's awesome!
IAMURBRO
NEW | 1191 X | 1007 TS
Jul 18, 2012 22:08:53 UTC
could be 90% for all i care
majava
98% | 1871 X | 1522 TS
Jul 28, 2012 20:06:56 UTC
and the day come... funch 80%
fUNCh
84% | 1561 X | 1417 TS
Aug 19, 2012 20:25:56 UTC
and its gone
fUNCh
84% | 1561 X | 1417 TS
Sep 15, 2012 07:18:05 UTC
Hello guys, I disn't know where to write this, so I'll put it here. It is time for me to leave classic dota and go to Dota 2. DoTA-GC made from this game a real pleasure for me and I want to thank all u guys "up there" for giving me quality games, no lag, and a professional example of how to administrate a gaming server. KEEP IT UP!
As for the players around here, I want to thank you to for good games I made here. I don't regret any game I played! It was a real player to kill or even get killed by you. A lot of thanks, I progressed much since I've been here, thanks to you all! KEEP IT UP!
In the end, I want to wish you all who read this a very nice time, take care, don't hate and love eaach other!

Mircea N, Romania
Mircea.N
50% | 1225 X | 1322 TS
Sep 17, 2012 19:50:40 UTC
Fuck it
Lafrenzz
85% | 1570 X | 1422 TS
Sep 30, 2012 10:04:51 UTC
The point is to boost the number of the players here, coz its very low now...80% is great for silver, but we need to help too, call all your friends to play here, as i did...
Diablo
80% | 1572 X | 1350 TS